David -v- Doug: Matthew 15:3-9

David-v-Doug

Are the Commandments still valid today?

Bible Answers Live – Doug Batchelor

Matthew 15:3-9

Doug’s Bible Reference: Matthew 15:3-9  “But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?  4  For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.  5  But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;  6  And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.  7  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”

David’s Bible Answer: Once again… Doug is selectively choosing what he wants to see in this verse exclusively seeing the words that he likes and completely ignoring the context of what Jesus actually said in these verses. This is the exact same problem we found when we discussed Matthew 5:17-20.

Adventists experience tunnel vision and only see a few words that are also in the Ten Commandments in these verses. However Jesus is not only quoting the Ten Commandments, rather He is also quoting from the 613 laws, statutes and ordinances in the books of Moses. There is no command to put a child to death for disobeying his parents in the Ten Commandments. Jesus is NOT only quoting the Ten Commandments!

“For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” Matthew 15:4

And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.  Exodus 21:17

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.  Leviticus 20:9

Deuteronomy 21:18-21  If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:  19  Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;  20  And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.  21  And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.  Deuteronomy 27:16

The way that Doug uses Matthew 15:3-9 as “proof” we ought to keep the Ten Commandments when viewed in its actual context would have us believe that Christians should stone their children, simply because Jesus quoted from the Law of Moses! That would be a ridiculous and erroneous conclusion. What we have is a clear example of Doug, using a text, completely taken out of context in order to assert a false teaching that in these verses whatsoever.

These verses (Matthew 15:3-9) are not proof texts that Christians are obligated to obey Exodus 21:17; Leviticus 20:9; Deuteronomy 21:18-21, Deuteronomy 27:16, any more than they are proof texts that Christians are obligated to obey the Ten Commandments. These verses are a condemnation against man-made self-imposed doctrines that blatantly contradict the Law and point out the Pharisees hypocrisy. The punch line is “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” Jesus opened with the same point, “Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?”

In closing, we would do well to point out that the phrases “God commanded, and “the commandment of God” since they actually reference to Exodus 21:17; Leviticus 20:9; Deuteronomy 21:18-21, Deuteronomy 27:16 and not Exodus 20 alone, gives us further evidence that terms such as “the commandment of God” does not automatically mean The Ten Commandments! However in the Adventists mind, it does!

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Pretexts| Matthew 5:17-19 | Mark 10:17-22 |Matthew 15:3-9 | Romans 4:15 | John 14:15 |1 John 5:2-3

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