Proving Sunday is COMMANDED in the Bible – Where’s My $1000?

1 Corinthians 16:1-2

Chilco wrote: 6. “Christians are commanded every Sunday to give into a common treasury of the church: 1 Cor 16:1-2”. No, they were told to set something aside at home. “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.” They were asked to do their financial business at home at the beginning of each week, and set aside a bit of money weekly, so when Paul arrived he won’t have to make a big offering appeal, and they would have something to give when he came.

I now see this argument as a classic case of indoctrination by the Adventist church. You will see just how affective they have been by the time you finish this post. It will be seen THIS ADVENTIST ARGUMENT – WITHOUT QUESTION CONTRADICTS THIS VERSE. 1 Cor 16:2 (Keep an eye out for words in blue; I would like to hear a come back from that!).

I am not so sure AT HOME can be proven conclusively. It is a valid way to read the verse as long as you do not go to the Greek, but it cannot be said with 100% certainty even while reading only the KJV.

Strong’s Greek & Hebrew Dictionary:

English Words used in KJV:
lay 28, put 18, lay down 12, make 10, appoint 6, kneel down + + 5]

a prolonged form of a primary theo, theh’-o (which is used only as alternate in certain tenses); to place (in the widest application, literal and figurative; properly in a passive or horizontal posture, and thus different from (histemi), which properly denotes an upright and active position, while (keimai) is properly reflexive and utterly prostrate) :- + advise, appoint, bow, commit, conceive, give, × kneel down, lay (aside, down, up), make, ordain, purpose, put, set (forth), settle, sink down.

Strong’s Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.

English Words used in KJV:
lay up 3, in store 1, lay up treasure 1, treasure up 1, heap treasure together 1, keep in store 1

from (thesauros); to amass or reserve (literal or figurative) :- lay up (treasure), (keep) in store, (heap) treasure (together, up).

Nothing there about a house or a home. Adventist read that into the text, but there is nothing conclusive about that position.

Studying the Greek and leaving preconceived ideas out of it paints a different picture entirely. The Greek is more in harmony with what Malachi wrote, than being in a home.

If everyone’s offerings were at home then Paul would have to wait for them all to be gathered to him when he got there. However if they were all in a store house such as a church Paul could collect them all at once.

Now let’s Notice Malachi testimony.

Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house , and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

I am not afraid to concede a point, how about you? However if you do concede this point THIS VERSE PROVES EARLY CHRISTIANS DID ASSEMBLE SPECIFICALLY ON SUNDAY AND COLLECTED these OFFERINGS. It also proves that command came from an APOSTLE not a pope.

So where’s my thousand dollars? I proved it now cough up! Forget the thousand dollars I want the million offered by Jan MARCUSSEN! I doubt a single Adventist will honor that challenge though.

Just so we are clear, THIS VERSE PROVES EARLY CHRISTIANS DID ASSEMBLE SPECIFICALLY ON SUNDAY AND COLLECTED these OFFERINGS by a direct COMMAND from an Apostle.

SO I think you will likely want to plead the 5th amendment on 1 Cor 16:1-2 so that you do not incriminate yourself.

Let’s see this passage one last time.

1 Corinthians 16:1-2 (KJV)
1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store (TREASURE UP OR TO RESERVE IN STORE in the Greek), as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Paul did not want to wait for all the monies in separate homes to be gathered when he got there. It is illogical to say that every individual family put aside his money separately and at home, because that would cause the delay that Paul was trying to avoid. They were brought to the storehouse of the church just as Malachi had commanded.

Did you catch the part where Paul said he gave this ORDER i.e. command to churches all over Galatia. This was not the first time. It is simply the only recorded one we still have.

For further study, Look up the Hebrew for STOREHOUSE in Malachi and compare to the word “IN STORE” in the Greek from 1 Cor 16:2 and see the similarities.

  • mrloudcry

    Reply to an SDA who said “First day of the week” is actually Saturday in the Greek
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    Some over-zealous, Sabbath keepers, will state the actual Greek words used 1 Cor 16:2 actually refer to the weekly Sabbath, not the first day of the week. Or as in some cases, any day of the week.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (Interlinear Greek Bible)
    “EVERY FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK”
    You can’t get much more authoritative than the Interlinear Greek. It recognizes this as THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK!

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (Young’s Literal Translation)
    “ON EVERY FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK”
    Even the Young’s LITERAL Translation recognizes this as THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK!

    Each of the following verses contains the words “FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK.” Each of these verses is identical in the Greek. “MIA TON SABBATON.” By taking the position that “First day of the week” is actually Saturday as some overzealous Sabbath keepers have done, that would mean, JESUS ROSE FROM THE GRAVE ON SATURDAY NOT SUNDAY! Or as others would have it, that “First day of the week” can apply to ANY day of the week, then JESUS ACTUALLY ROSE ON NO PARTICULAR DAY OF THE WEEK AND WE ARE REALLY NOT SURE WHICH ONE!

    If you are going to challenge the Greek in 1 Cor 16:2 then you need to do the same with all these verses. THAT MEANS YOU MUST DENY JESUS ROSE FROM THE TOMB ON SUNDAY. Or even say, JESUS ROSE FROM THE TOMB ON SATURDAY!

    Matthew 28:1
    1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

    Mark 16:2
    2 And very early in the morning the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

    Luke 24:1
    1 Now upon the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

    John 20:1
    1 The FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

    John 20:19
    19 Then the same day at evening, being the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

    Acts 20:7
    7 And upon the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

    1 Corinthians 16:2
    2 Upon the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

    A. Any lexicon will tell you that “MIA TON SABBATON” means:
    1. “FIRST OF THE WEEKS”: [mia = first] + [ton = of the] + [sabbaton (plural) = weeks]
    2. “MIA TON SABBATON” is the common expression for “First day of the Week”.
    3. The only ones who say otherwise1 are those who have no knowledge of Greek. These “Sabbatarian Greek Neophytes” merely saw the word “Sabbaton” in the Greek and incorrectly assumed it referred to the weekly Sabbath!

    Jews in Christ time called the days of the week
    1. First of the Sabbath
    2. Second of the Sabbath
    3. Third of the Sabbath
    4. Fourth of the Sabbath
    5. Fifth of the Sabbath
    6. Sixth of the Sabbath
    7. Sabbath Day

    Quoting Wikipedia,

    “The names for the days of the week are simply the day number within the week. In Hebrew, these names may be abbreviated using the numerical value of the Hebrew letters, for example Day 1, or Yom Rishon:

    1. Yom Rishon = “first day” = Sunday (starting at preceding sunset)
    2. Yom Sheni = “second day” = Monday
    3. Yom Shlishi = “third day” = Tuesday
    4. Yom Reviʻi = “fourth day” = Wednesday
    5. Yom Chamishi = “fifth day” = Thursday
    6. Yom Shishi = “sixth day” = Friday
    7. Yom Shabbat = “Sabbath day (Rest day)” = Saturday

    The names of the days of the week are modeled on the seven days mentioned in the Creation story. For example, Genesis 1:5 “… And there was evening and there was morning, one day”. One day also translates to first day or day one. Similarly, see Genesis 1:8, 1:13, 1:19, 1:23, 1:31 and 2.2.”

    B. If “MIA TON SABBATON” means the 7th day (Sabbath day) then it creates a contradiction between Mk 16:1 & 2 .

    Mk 16:1
    When the Sabbath [SABBATOU — singular, and the normal expression for the Sabbath _day_] was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him
    Mk 16:2
    And very early on the first day of the week [MIA TON SABBATON], when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb.

    “MIA TON SABBATON” must be different from the Sabbath

    The reason Sabbatarians deny that these texts should read “the first day of the week” is that the texts so powerfully prove Sunday worship and they wished to God it really was the Sabbath day!

    1. It indicates that they KNOW these passages teach first day observance if indeed they should be translated “first day”!
    2. Sabbatarians know their doctrine is refuted if 1 Cor 16:2 proves to be first day observance rather than seventh-day.

    The phrase: “EVERY first day” in 1 Cor 16:2 is in the Greek:
    The Greek word “KATA” is the same in both 1 Cor 16:2 and Acts 14:23. Greek authorities agree that 1 Cor 16:2 says, “every week”.
    1. 1 Cor 16:2 “first day of every [KATA] week”
    2. Acts 14:23 appoint elders in every [KATA] city”

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (NASB)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK let each one of you put aside and save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (NCV)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK, each one of you should put aside money as you have been blessed. Save it up so you will not have to collect money after I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (RSV)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that contributions need not be made when I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (NIV)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (AMP)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EACH WEEK, let each one of you personally put aside something and save it up as he has prospered in proportion to what he is given, so that no collections will need to be taken after I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (ESV)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (GW)
    2 EVERY SUNDAY each of you should set aside some of your money and save it. Then money won’t have to be collected when I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (Interlinear)
    “EVERY FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK”
    Even the Interlinear Greek Bible recognizes this has THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK!

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (NRSV)
    2 On the FIRST DAY OF EVERY WEEK, each of you is to put aside and save whatever extra you earn, so that collections need not be taken when I come.

    1 Corinthians 16:2 (YLT)
    2 ON EVERY FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK, let each one of you lay by him, treasuring up whatever he may have prospered, that when I may come then collections may not be made;

    OBVIOUSLY JESUS DID NOT RISE FROM THE TOMB ON SATURDAY, or just ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! No more than these collections in 1 Cor 16 were made on Saturday or just any day of the week.

    The Seventh-day Adventist church is willing to SAY ANYTHING so long as in the end it agrees with Ellen G. White. That is why Adventist never see contradictions between the Bible and her writings. Ellen G. White is FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS against the BIBLE. Adventist acrobatic Bible twisting is KEEPING YOU FROM SEEING THEM!

    I know how those words must make you feel! Truth hurts and can even be very upsetting, especially when you find out your church has been teaching error about verses in the Bible and there is no way deny it!

    A Sabbath Keeping Doctor of Greek Language Agrees with the conclusion of this article.

    I posted this article on THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK on facebook this afternoon.

    I have a dear friend who is a FULL TIME SEMINARY STUDENT for over a decade now, and has some serious degrees and specializes in Greek Language. He knows Greek perhaps better than he even knows English! It is a noteworthy point that He is a Sabbatarian! And yet he totally agreed with my article.

    According to this expert in Greek language 1 Cor 16:2 is definitely the FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK!

    This is what he wrote me a few moments ago on FaceBook!

    “If they wanted to say every Sabbath they would say it like:
    κατὰ πᾶν σάββατον

    that would mean, “Every Sabbath”

    …κατὰ μίαν σαββάτου

    is a very common phrase of that time period to denote the first day of the week

    well κατὰ μίαν σαββάτου is the actual phrase.”

  • mrloudcry

    There are only 2 possible ways of looking at this.

    1. All the money was collected into one place prior to when Paul arrived so that he could quickly be on his way.

    2. All the money was stored separately at each individuals home, which meant that Paul would have to wait for all the monies stored in different places to be gathered.

    “PLEASE KEEP YOUR MONEY IN YOUR SEPARATE HOMES SO THEY WON’T NEED TO BE GATHERED WHEN I GET THERE.” That makes NO SENSE and is self-contradictory!

  • mrloudcry

    The men Paul would send letters with WERE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CORINTHIAN CHURCH. Paul handled things like that so that the Corinthians would be entrusting their offerings to people they knew personally. Paul would send with them letters so that those in Jerusalem who personally knew Paul would know this was sent by his commission. None of that changes the fact that Paul did not want the money gathered when he came, but rather wanted it done EACH SUNDAY to avoid gathers later on.

    He emphatically said HE PERSONALLY WOULD COME to Corinth! He instructed the Corinthians to TREASURE UP (According to the Greek) their offerings, “EVERY SUNDAY” FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF AVOIDING THE TIME CONSUMING TASK OF GATHERING THE MONEY WHEN HE CAME! The gatherings HAPPENED BEFORE Paul arrived, and they happened EVERY SUNDAY when the Christians ASSEMBLED and gave their offerings.

  • mrloudcry

    One Adventist said earlier this week on youtube, “it says nothing about worshiping here.”

    According to “The Stewardship Department” of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventist written in an article called, “AN ACT OF WORSHIP” GIVING OUR OFFERINGS IS AN ACT OF WORSHIP!!! You will find that article at AdventistStewardship com

    Paul COMMANDED the Churches (PLURAL) to ASSEMBLE EVERY SUNDAY and collect their offerings. GIVING OUR OFFERINGS IS AN ACT OF WORSHIP according to your own church! SO WHERE IS MY $1000!!!!!

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